Comments on: VoIP – Is it dead or alive? Or simply boring? http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/ Home of Sheryl Breuker Media & Ken Camp Consulting Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:48:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Into Tech - are you into technology? http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-2099 Into Tech - are you into technology? Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:01:43 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-2099 <strong>Into Tech - are you into technology?...</strong> Is there a way to subscribe? It doesn\'t seem to be working.... Into Tech – are you into technology?…

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]]> By: Graves On SOHO VoIP » Can You Hear Me Now? VoIP Bloggers Decide: VoIP Undead! http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1934 Graves On SOHO VoIP » Can You Hear Me Now? VoIP Bloggers Decide: VoIP Undead! Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:01:01 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1934 [...] have weighed in with opinion on the matter, including; Alec Saunders, Andy Abramson, Dan York*, Ken Camp, Jon Arnold, Irwin Lazar, Om Malik, Tom Keating, amongst others. And a little unexpectedly, Jeff [...] [...] have weighed in with opinion on the matter, including; Alec Saunders, Andy Abramson, Dan York*, Ken Camp, Jon Arnold, Irwin Lazar, Om Malik, Tom Keating, amongst others. And a little unexpectedly, Jeff [...]

]]> By: Emerging Tech Talk » Blog Archive » Emerging Tech Talk #014 - Is VoIP dead? It depends… http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1900 Emerging Tech Talk » Blog Archive » Emerging Tech Talk #014 - Is VoIP dead? It depends… Mon, 05 Jan 2009 15:43:14 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1900 [...] Jon Arnold says “it’s not dead yet“. Andy Abramson agrees with Jon. Ken Camp says VoIP is just boring. Jeff Pulver says VoIP is very much alive (and later amplifies that statement). And a zillion [...] [...] Jon Arnold says “it’s not dead yet“. Andy Abramson agrees with Jon. Ken Camp says VoIP is just boring. Jeff Pulver says VoIP is very much alive (and later amplifies that statement). And a zillion [...]

]]> By: Is VoIP dead or alive? » article » Gadgets Network http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1890 Is VoIP dead or alive? » article » Gadgets Network Sun, 04 Jan 2009 01:14:55 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1890 [...] Ken put another perspective: beyond the  dead or alive idea. VoIP - Is it dead or alive? Or simply [...] [...] Ken put another perspective: beyond the  dead or alive idea. VoIP – Is it dead or alive? Or simply [...]

]]> By: Is VoIP dead or alive? - Reviews of Cell phones http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1880 Is VoIP dead or alive? - Reviews of Cell phones Sat, 03 Jan 2009 09:14:39 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1880 [...] Ken put another perspective: beyond the  dead or alive idea. VoIP - Is it dead or alive? Or simply [...] [...] Ken put another perspective: beyond the  dead or alive idea. VoIP – Is it dead or alive? Or simply [...]

]]> By: Ken http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1878 Ken Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:14:20 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1878 Art, Thanks for taking the time to read and coming back. I know Sheryl dropped you a note about the call. We'd love it it the time works out and you could join us! Art,

Thanks for taking the time to read and coming back. I know Sheryl dropped you a note about the call. We’d love it it the time works out and you could join us!

]]> By: Art Rosenberg http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1877 Art Rosenberg Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:42:40 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1877 Ken, Didn't mean to come across as condescending, but I guess I was jumping in too fast to read what I was writing. As I indicated, since I really hadn't read all the comments, I may have been reacting to some other pundits who feel they have to explain what UC is all about. (I was particularly disappointed today in a long-time industry writer, who characterized UC as if it were a single, premise-based, real-time system, that did not include unified messaging because presence is of little value for asynchronous messaging.) Thanks for the invitation, I will try to make it. Ken,

Didn’t mean to come across as condescending, but I guess I was jumping in too fast to read what I was writing. As I indicated, since I really hadn’t read all the comments, I may have been reacting to some other pundits who feel they have to explain what UC is all about. (I was particularly disappointed today in a long-time industry writer, who characterized UC as if it were a single, premise-based, real-time system, that did not include unified messaging because presence is of little value for asynchronous messaging.)

Thanks for the invitation, I will try to make it.

]]> By: Ken http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1872 Ken Sat, 03 Jan 2009 02:12:29 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1872 I think we've all been involved in US as long as you have Art. I found that just a tad condescending and egotistical given the well known histories of the people involved in the conversation. I don't think there's a single person who's said it's just about voice. I will argue that *most* of business enterprise apps are about person to person communications, so I'd say you're talking the same thing we are and it's all just semantics. If you're talking CRM, SFA, HRM and the like, you're really talking about human interaction and calling it an enterprise app doesn't change reality. That said, I've also always valued your insights and viewpoints in the industry too, and I'd love you have you join us on the call on Monday if you're free. Ken I think we’ve all been involved in US as long as you have Art. I found that just a tad condescending and egotistical given the well known histories of the people involved in the conversation.

I don’t think there’s a single person who’s said it’s just about voice. I will argue that *most* of business enterprise apps are about person to person communications, so I’d say you’re talking the same thing we are and it’s all just semantics.

If you’re talking CRM, SFA, HRM and the like, you’re really talking about human interaction and calling it an enterprise app doesn’t change reality.

That said, I’ve also always valued your insights and viewpoints in the industry too, and I’d love you have you join us on the call on Monday if you’re free.

Ken

]]> By: Art Rosenberg http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1870 Art Rosenberg Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:12:42 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1870 Its not just about "voice," guys! Not only is business communications about other forms of real-time communication, but if you read the headlines, the next consumer generation is into real-time texting as well. California has a new law this year about texting while driving. So, we all know that the carriers may complain about being just "pipes" ("plumbing"), but its also about business process applications, and not just person-to-person contacts. I haven't had much time to read everyone's comments here yet, but I have been writing about UC since before you all figured it out. I am glad to see everyone finally getting to understand the end user's perspective and new multimodal mobile devices, not just the infrastructure view, that is pushing telephony to IP. Happy UC New Year! Art Rosenberg The Unified-View Its not just about “voice,” guys! Not only is business communications about other forms of real-time communication, but if you read the headlines, the next consumer generation is into real-time texting as well. California has a new law this year about texting while driving. So, we all know that the carriers may complain about being just “pipes” (“plumbing”), but its also about business process applications, and not just person-to-person contacts.

I haven’t had much time to read everyone’s comments here yet, but I have been writing about UC since before you all figured it out. I am glad to see everyone finally getting to understand the end user’s perspective and new multimodal mobile devices, not just the infrastructure view, that is pushing telephony to IP.

Happy UC New Year!

Art Rosenberg
The Unified-View

]]> By: VoIP ? What is It ? | LucaFiligheddu.com http://stardustglobalventures.com/2008/12/31/voip-is-it-dead-or-alive-or-simply-boring/comment-page-1/#comment-1865 VoIP ? What is It ? | LucaFiligheddu.com Fri, 02 Jan 2009 21:54:30 +0000 http://stardustglobalventures.com/?p=317#comment-1865 [...] been reading a lot of interesting thoughtful posts by pals VoIP bloggers like Alec Saunders, Ken Camp, Ted Wallingford, Phoneboy, Garrett Smith, Jeff Pulver, Andy Abramson, Jon Arnold and a few others [...] [...] been reading a lot of interesting thoughtful posts by pals VoIP bloggers like Alec Saunders, Ken Camp, Ted Wallingford, Phoneboy, Garrett Smith, Jeff Pulver, Andy Abramson, Jon Arnold and a few others [...]

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